Episode 25: Systems and Workflows for Creating and Maintaining a Magnetic Website Presence with Elizabeth McCravy • Dolly DeLong Photography

Episode 25: Systems and Workflows for Creating and Maintaining a Magnetic Website Presence with Elizabeth McCravy

Welcome to another episode of The Systems and Workflow Magic Podcast! Today we are discussing all the systems and workflows you can set up to create and maintain a magnetic website presence. I am so excited to be chatting with website designer Elizabeth McCravy. Elizabeth has designed so many beautiful Showit website templates and has the best tips for keeping your website up to date to better connect with your target audience. 

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Get to know Elizabeth McCravy (1:35)

Systems and workflows for maintaining a magnetic website presence (3:34)

Making quarterly updates on your website (7:09)

Updating your website photos (12:16)

Sharing your client testimonials (15:30)

Updating the high-traffic pages on your site (19:10)

Checking for broken links (23:08)

Is your website still working for you? (24:14)

Get connected with Elizabeth (27:30)

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Dolly DeLong
Welcome to the systems and workflow magic podcast where I help entrepreneurs go from scattered to streamlined in their creative businesses. I’m your host, Dolly DeLong, a wife, a mom and a photographer turned systems educator. Join me every week as we have conversations centered around creating tactical workflows, and automations and your business. Now, let’s make some strategic workflow magic. Hello, and welcome back to the systems and workflow magic podcast. I am so excited to be introducing Elizabeth McCravy to the podcast today. She is a business owner who I have been following for well over, I’m gonna say over four years now because I remember meeting her when my son was like a newborn baby. And so that I just like, track that along. So I’ve known her for a little over four years and through the internet. That sounds creepy. Online Instagram, and I actually have purchased a show a template from her my beautiful website is because of Elizabeth. And so I am so excited and thrilled to have her on the podcast today because she is going to be talking about how to create and maintain a magnetic website presence like what kind of systems and workflows we as business owners need to put in place in order to attract more people to our website. Elizabeth, can you introduce yourself to the audience?

Elizabeth McCravy
Yes, Dolly. Thank you for having me. And you know, I’ve loved following along with you all those years as well and loved watching you start this awesome podcast, all of that, and your website, all of it. So thank you. Yeah, so I live in the Nashville area like Dolly. And I do. Let’s see how to. It’s sort of still hard for me lately to explain what I do. But I saw website template show website templates. That’s like my main thing. And I’ve been doing that a few years. So I’m a website designer by trade. And then I also have an online course called booked out designer that teaches brand and website designers how to build a booked out in demand design business. I also have a podcast, I do real estate investing and currently working on like other courses and stuff for like service business owners to learn how to grow their business and all that lovely stuff.

Dolly DeLong
I feel like Elizabeth, you will probably laugh at me when I say this. But I feel like everything you touch turns to gold. You probably will disagree with that. But from my perspective, like you have a really, I don’t know anything you get involved in. I think you have a lot of good perspective on and so you. That’s why I said that phrase. So hope it’s so

Elizabeth McCravy
embarrassing. No, that’s so kind. I really appreciate that encouragement.

Dolly DeLong
Yeah, well, because I listen, I’ve been listening to your podcast since it really began. I don’t even know how long ago that was. But you. And I’ll be linking your podcasts in the show notes, of course, so that people can follow Elizabeth too. But the topic you’re about to share, these are things that you talk about on your own podcast. And I’ve learned a lot about how to optimize my website, not only because I bought a template from you, but because like, this is something you teach for free on your podcasts. And so this, these are applicable tips, and I am really excited for people to listen in and get some nuggets of wisdom from you. Yes,

Elizabeth McCravy
I’m excited to talk about this too. So we’re going

Dolly DeLong
to just like go into the heart of the topic, which is creating and maintaining a magnetic website presence. So can you just, I’m just gonna let you take it away from here. And just like the systems and workflow, you have created for yourself to teach others about how to do this.

Elizabeth McCravy
Yeah, so okay, so thinking about like, especially the part of like maintaining our site. So like, once you have your website set up, we’re all excited, right as the creator of it, or maybe you hired someone to make it for you. And you’re like, This is the greatest thing ever. And maybe you’re like looking at your website and admiring it like frequently. But then you kind of stop looking at your website very much. And as the business owner, we often like, yeah, we get our website design, and then it’s just we kind of forget about it. And in a sense, often we’re not looking at it every day, maybe not even every week, but then our potential clients, hopefully you have people going to it every day to like read your blog, to look at your services to fill out your contact form, all of those kinds of things. So it’s really important that we come up with systems for like maintaining the website, keeping it up to date, making sure I mean, we can talk through all the different things that we want to make sure we’re updating. But we want to make sure the website is frequently freshened up, even though we’re not like hanging out looking at all the time just knowing that our ideal clients are

Dolly DeLong
and this is like especially for solopreneurs who These are tips for solopreneurs who can’t necessarily hire you know, a VA or hire somebody out to do this, you’re going to be sharing some tips that people can implement on their own as business owners.

Elizabeth McCravy
Yeah, absolutely, yeah. And even if you did have like a team, this is like systems that you’re someone on your team could be the one responsible for, you can create, like with all of your amazing stuff, darling, I’m sure you can come up with some like, cool like way to make sure this is happening all the time. But like, for me what I do in my business, and what I typically recommend to people, is like once a quarter, have a system where you are looking over your website, reviewing it, and that doesn’t mean you’re not looking at your site more frequently, like hopefully, you’re going to your own website, at some point, for some reason and updating it for something more often than once a quarter. But I would say picking like, you know, maybe it’s the first Monday of every quarter. And that being like a project day, where you are reviewing your website. And we can talk through all the different things to like, make sure you have up to date, but where you’re really looking at it. And depending on how big your site is, it might be like, you just need a couple hours, it could be you need a whole day. If you have a really giant website, it could be like a week’s worth of stuff. For me, it’s like, I need a lot of time when I do this, because I have like so many website pages. And that’s where too though, doing something as frequently as quarterly is helpful. Because if you let your website get too stagnant, then that’s just going to increase how long it takes every time you like go into to make updates and maintain it.

Dolly DeLong
Oh, I agree. I totally hear you when you say so many different pages because I feel like I’m creating a new page for my website and may not be live but it’s like a secret landing page for a specific opt in and I have I’m gonna say like 40 different pages. Yeah, that makes

Elizabeth McCravy
sense. Especially if you’re doing like what you’re doing dolly have like a lot of good email marketing strategy. It’s like you’re gonna be you’re making lots of landing pages and weightless pages and stuff that you take down and like quiz. If you have quizzes, you might have a bunch of quiz result pages like that. Yeah, there’s so many things to look over. Yeah,

Dolly DeLong
there are. So you would definitely recommend like I’m kind of repeating what you said, recommend sitting down, like the first Monday or the first Tuesday, whatever of the quarter. And just like looking, assessing through your website and having a fresh perspective of your website.

Elizabeth McCravy
Yeah, so here are things like as you’re so if you’re doing your website update, maybe listeners right now are like, oh, shoot, I’ve never done that, like I probably should, here are like the things to kind of like a checklist you can make for yourself of like the things to look at. One thing that’s really easy to fix, and and to keep up to date, but that we all probably have lurking on our website is a problem is dates. So like for example, you might say somewhere that you’ve been in business five years, well, that changes you know, as the years go on, versus like you said, I started my business and say 2014 or whatever like that obviously stays as is. But when we use things like Ben versus five years, I’ve been married two years, I’m a mom to a three year old. Every time that shifts you need to go in and update those numbers. And it can be really convenient to just always put yours or in dates instead. But sometimes from like a copywriting perspective, it’s Wait, like, I’d rather say I’m a mom to a seven and a half month old than say my baby was born on this day. Like, you know, that doesn’t really make sense. So you want to look at that stuff, though. Make sure it’s up to date. And like, there’s so many reasons for that, like one we want our website content to be like fresh and correct. But also like if you have really outdated information like that on your site, and someone following you maybe on social media like knows, like hey, you know, Dolly, you look like you have your four year old but then your website says you’re a mom to a newborn, it’s like okay, wait, has she updated her website like ever? Um, so it’s like, we want to make sure that that is up to date, because it helps us it really I mean, gosh, goes back to like legitimizing our business even like little things like that. Another number to look at is the copyright at the bottom of your site. So you want to make sure that’s up to date with the current year obviously, like when January hits, if you don’t have an immediately updated like, that’s not a big deal. But like right now, if when you’re listening to this, if it still says the previous year, then that’s a little too far and can kind of tell people hey, this website is not being frequently updated. So like, numbers basically is the first thing to make sure you you keep up to date and in the numbers like one more thing to add there is if you have a terms and condition or website, right privacy policy, all of that. Oftentimes we have in there a date of like last updated on or policy as of whatever date like go and review your policy that hasn’t changed at all just update the date. Or if you have some new change about it, change it but like keep that date updated. That is

Dolly DeLong
so good. I’m actually writing a note right now, to see that like policy privacy policies up to date. I’m wanted to affirm that and let you know that because of one of your episodes, I don’t know what it was. But you had mentioned like, go to your footer and make sure you update the year, the current year. So now I have it on my notes every January, I will update the current like from let’s say my my footer right now it’s the year right now is 2022. So I put 2018 Dash 2022. So it’s something I learned from you.

Elizabeth McCravy
Good. Yeah. And so that’s like, yeah, something so worth refreshing. And yeah, it shows people that your business is operating, and that it’s like, yeah, you’re taking care of stuff and keeping things up to date.

Dolly DeLong
Yeah, that’s something I because you mentioned that I now look at other people, like, I don’t intentionally, like go out and look at other people’s websites. But if I happen to be looking at somebody’s website, I have noticed more times than another that their dates are like two or three years old, and I’m like, Oh, they haven’t updated their footers, but I’m not gonna tell them because I don’t want to be that annoying person. Like, Hey, by the way, your footer is expired. And they’re like,

Elizabeth McCravy
No, but I know what you mean. It really does like and I like observe. I’m very observant of random stuff like that, too. And even like, this is like totally aside No, but like something that actually relates to this, but like, on social media. So right now I’m hosting a going away party for friends in like a month and I’m trying to find a cookie person doll, you might be able to give me a recommendation by trying to find a cookie person to make like custom cookies. And I was looking on Instagram, like we do for like, find a cookie person. And so many of the profiles I kept finding were like, Okay, these are gorgeous. They make great stuff. They haven’t posted over a year. And so I’m like, are they still in business?

Dolly DeLong
Oh, I have many in mind for you. So okay, yes, definitely.

Elizabeth McCravy
Like, are they still in business? So it’s like things like that, like not updating stuff basically can make people be like, are they in business? Do they care about this? Are they still working? Yeah, whatever it is. So yeah, plus our website and social media.

Dolly DeLong
Yeah, I also am a lurker. I call myself a lurker. And I noticed those things too, like, Yeah, are you still doing things? Or? That’s a really good point. Okay, what about like quarterly updates go like we’re, we have a checklist. So we were updating our flitters. And our privacy policy and any specific numbers that have to do with our business. Any other checklist items that we should note for our quarterly analysis?

Elizabeth McCravy
Yes. So next thing would be to look at and this is another one, that’s like, pretty easy. The last few I have are a little bit harder. But photos. So like, have you taken any new photos that could be changed out on your website? And if you haven’t, that’s okay. But like, if you have done a brand photo shoot, or even like maybe on your about page, you share some more personal like iPhone quality, but well edited photos that are like of you and your family, just looking and seeing like, How can I freshen any of this up? And that’s actually like probably a more fun update even to be like looking at yourself, like, oh, yeah, these photos are a little old. Like, how can I update them? So that’s a really easy one.

Dolly DeLong
I am very guilty of that. So I’ve been like meaning to change out a lot of my photos and a lot of my galleries. But it’s on my to do list for this quarter for sure.

Elizabeth McCravy
Yeah. And that you actually just kind of led me to another one like, so photos of like you and your business. But then another one would be portfolio client work for different industries, that’s going to look different, like maybe it’s case studies, if you’re not doing something visual, if you’re a photographer, it might be galleries designer, it might be, you know, do the brand new websites you’ve done recently, but like making sure that you’re frequently updating that for me, in my business, I like to do that sort of thing more frequently than once a quarter. If you’re doing something like photography or design where it’s like you can finish a project, maybe make that part of your workflow, to blog about it, add it to your portfolio, and keep it up to date that way, because everything on your site frequently like tells Google that hey, the site’s active, it’s being used people like to go to it, it’s updated, all that kind of stuff. So doing it even more frequently than quarterly. But it’d be a good time if you haven’t been doing that to like add to your portfolio and also deleting stuff like looking at it and saying like, is there anything here that does not represent my work? Well, at this stage as your business grows as you get better at your skill, and remove it?

Dolly DeLong
Yeah, that is so true. Oh, Elizabeth, you are like I feel a little called out right now. But I know I need to update so many different things on my website. And I’m like a beautiful template Dolly. Don’t ruin it. Oh my gosh,

Elizabeth McCravy
I love your website. And I like so I I can call myself out with all this and I’m a website designer in my site. I’m actually currently in the process, which will be a really long process of redesigning the whole thing. Yeah, so I have a lot of this but I have updates up to date and stuff like that. But like, I have things I need to change, and I’m doing it more as like a giant overhaul which we can talk about, like kind of the end of this episode of like, waiting. Is it time just start over? Because sometimes that’s the answer. But yes, I’m with you. Like, my site also needs a lot of this. So like, give yourself grace. If you’re listening, you’re like, oh my gosh, my slides. So not updated. Like, that’s okay. We spend centers, we wear so many hats. It’s easy to like, let this one go. But like little tweaks can like go a long way and freshen it up.

Dolly DeLong
That’s true. And that kind of like brings. I know, you shared this point with me, but like, testimonials, that is a big one, like client proof for you.

Elizabeth McCravy
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I would say testimonials is like, again, a good one to update quarterly. And asking, yeah, just ask the question. Like, have you gotten a new feedback, hopefully, you have in the last quarter, and maybe it’s that you have more testimonials to add. Or maybe you have worked with a client or customer that wrote something way stronger than what you currently have a you can kind of change some stuff out to make it like, you know, only doing the like top testimonials that are the most like pizzazz, I guess that’s a weird word to use. But like, that’s gonna be like getting the most attention grabbing on your website. So yeah, looking through updating that. And again, like there’s so many like little systems, you can create, even within this like to maybe update testimonials more frequently, something I’m currently working on in my business, that is going to be a process, but that is making a big, like organizational system for all of my testimonials, because I kind of like have, you know, for website, template customers, there’s a survey I send out that people fill out and then there’s like, I’ll get a testimonial on Instagram DM and then like, an email. And so it’s like kind of putting all those together, categorizing them. And like, that sort of thing. So I don’t have a great system for that right now. But like, literally, that’s something in our team meeting a few weeks ago, we were like, we have got to figure this out of like a spreadsheet system or something to organize it. So that’s another little system idea there,

Dolly DeLong
my current system for testimonials for my the education side of my business. So like dubsado, or any like many courses that people buy, I have a survey that goes out after the purchase sequence. So after they purchased a program from me or purchased whatever offer for me, they are entered into a nurture sequence, which I know like Elizabeth, you’re gonna be talking about email, email marketing later on an episode because we have you scheduled down for that which I’m so excited about. But part of my strategy is always collecting client testimonials on Evergreen. And then I link that it’s like a Google doc really like a Google form. And I link that on a Trello board. So once a week or once every other week, I click that link and I see the new testimonials that have come through. And so I just like check it and I need to go through it and add that to my website like that is like on my to do list. But that is a system I’ve set up for myself and always collecting testimonials for the education side of my business.

Elizabeth McCravy
That’s more and I figured you would have something like nice and more like automated with that. Yeah, I mean, that’s, that’s great. And that helps with this, that stuff of like, if you already have that’s gonna be a lot faster than if you’re like hunting down your testimonials and like random places. Yeah, I love that.

Dolly DeLong
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Elizabeth McCravy
Okay, so So this one, this actually can be kind of two together in a sense. But using something like Google Search Console, there’s other ones too, but looking at what blog posts and pages on your website are getting the most traffic, and then making sure those are up to date. So I don’t think you need to go through everything you’ve ever written, but looking at like, okay, like say you have this one blog post, you wrote it in 2018. And you’re noticing that it gets lots of traffic and you’re kind of seeing like, hey, it’s from this Google search or like it’s from this pin on Pinterest like whatever it is that part doesn’t really matter as much although it is fun to like know where the traffic’s coming from. But look at it and see like Okay, did you mention some service in it that you don’t offer anymore? Is there an affiliate link that’s broken? Like for me, I actually had a gush for probably a little too long, some old blogs that were ranking super well that were pitching my one on one design services when I wasn’t really like, I still do one on one work, but very rarely. And so that wasn’t the thing to be talking about. So that was a missed opportunity. So making sure that like, stuff like that is up to date. And that’s checking for broken links, checking that if there are images, you can update is there an opt in, you could add to this to like, get traffic from Google to your email list, like so many things to kind of look at there. It doesn’t have to be like, again, not 1000 posts to look through, but maybe pick like five and really optimize them.

Dolly DeLong
Don’t I like that I am actually, in relation to that I am in the process of training, her official title is not going to be VA but she’s going to be working for, for me at least like three or four hours a week. And she’s going to be optimizing my past blog posts from like 2017 1819 20 that like what you said, like the call to actions are services, I don’t offer any more. And so she’s going to be going through and combing them and just seeing Okay, inserting call to actions that are relevant or optimizing my keywords or whatever, like whatever terms I’m like, probably butchering right now. But I am currently working on an SOP for her. And I’m going to be creating loom videos for her to walk her through how to optimize old blog posts. And so just like you bringing that up, I want to encourage listeners that if you if this process overwhelms you, then hire like if you can hire somebody out for one to two hours a week to specifically work on old pillar content that is working for you, but at the same time needs to be optimized.

Elizabeth McCravy
Yes, I love that you have like hired help for that I feel so passionate about like delegating, and outsourcing and getting help with things. But I’m the same way. Like we actually, were just updating a bunch of old so not even that all but blog posts that could talk about my course booked out designer, but didn’t it. And so someone on my team, like I made notes of like, here are the top things, we want to make sure we’re changing on these. And then she’s gone through and like, done all of them. We’re not done with it yet. But like that’s something we’re working on Google in like, search SEO type stuff, like you can write a post and it really benefit your business for years to come. Yeah, it’s not just about like the people who read it, you know, the week your podcast airs, or whatever. And when you optimize, you can help with that.

Dolly DeLong
I’m probably getting the episodes mixed up. But right before this episode airs, like there, I interviewed my VA, who writes up blog posts for me, and she said the exact same phrase you just said, like, just like Google working for you for years to come based off of like, being purposeful with your blog posts and being strategic with your blog posts.

Elizabeth McCravy
Yeah, I love that. Yeah. And so, okay, this one like this can be like, our last one really in the checklist. And then I have a thought for like, just evaluate the websites working for you at all, actually. Okay, I have like two more. So okay, so the five, the final one that kind of related to that one that is checking for broken links on your whole site. And the best way to do that is not going to every page and clicking the links. But instead, run your website through a broken Link Checker. There are tons of ways to do this there like WordPress plugins, you can also literally just Google broken Link Checker. And there are some websites that do this for free, where you enter your URL, you should do it for your homepage with most of these websites, and then it’ll come up with like links that are broken, kind of talking about what you’re just saying, like that’s a missed opportunity. If you have someone like saying yes to click on a link on your website, and then it doesn’t work like that really stinks. And we can kind of update that easily. And again, if you’re doing this more quarterly that hopefully, you’re the first time you do it for the first time on your website, you had it a while it might be like a ton of broken links. But then going forward, it might become less and less and maybe none even when you check in. There’s like the final thing in which I could have said this is the first step. But I would say just go through the pages of your website, like the main page, especially the ones linked in your navigation. Look at it as if you were a potential client and ask yourself like, Does this make sense? Is there anything missing, like random stuff that we haven’t talked about that could need to be updated? And that can even be good to do after you’ve done all these other things like look at your site holistically, see what needs fixing?

Dolly DeLong
No, I think that’s a great point. I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of her. Shana. Skidmore. She runs a print model. I just finished up that program with her and she actually it was like a six week program. And she I was one of the six students that signed up for her assessment. Like she went through live like each of our websites, it was a very humbling experience because like, for me, I didn’t realize this, but I was like, kind of doing the Cheesecake Factory like menu doing everything like bombarding a new person. And she combed through the homepage and made some suggestions. And because of that, I now like have honed in more of my, just like my copy my message my, like two or three different groups who I definitely serve. And it’s so true. Like, sometimes you just have to have like, take the time to look and see, is it confusing? Like do I still offer these services? Or like, what do I need to take out? And what do I need to refresh? And so maybe you should have somebody like, I’ve heard somebody say, maybe have your parent look through it, because like, do the Mom Test that’s good? Like, how easy is it to navigate for your parent? or have somebody else in your industry navigate it? So that was something I recently did. And even though it was humbling embarrassing at the moment, it’s turned out really good at the end, because I have more clear messaging.

Elizabeth McCravy
Yeah. And that’s yeah, such a good tip of like having someone maybe an industry friend, a parent, that’s a really good one. Maybe your husband or spouse, like for me, that would be a good test, because my husband’s not tech savvy. So I’d be like, Oh, wow, you don’t understand how to click this button. Maybe that’s a problem.

Dolly DeLong
Time would be like, you just need one word. No, I need more. More copies.

Elizabeth McCravy
Yeah, like write less? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, those are the main, those are the main things I would say to look through. And then like, after you’ve looked through them, like sometimes our websites not working for us anymore. Again, I’m raising my hand currently redoing mine. And my website’s not like y’all can go look at it. Like it was way before I’m done with it. It I love my site, but it like it’s, it’s grown and evolved with me as my business has evolved. And like it needs some fixing to like, get it to get it where my business is headed. And like with the offers and things like that. So like looking at your site and asking, like, has stuff changed, or you need to start over? Maybe the design itself is what’s not working for you. Like there’s so many different things. So just looking at that of like, do I need to change anything there? And if so, maybe it’s time to like, start fresh with that.

Dolly DeLong
No, I love that. That’s really good advice. Elizabeth, I know you have a some amazing resource. You always have amazing resources, and you have something for my audience today. So can you share what you have for the listeners today?

Elizabeth McCravy
Okay, yes, so I have a freebie that it’s geared towards coaches, but it would really work for service providers in general. And it’s called The Seven essentials for a high converting coaching website. And it’s a multi page guide, I want to say like 10 pages, sharing different strategies for like creating a really high performing website as a coach or or service provider. So Dolly, you’re going to link that in the show notes. But it’s Elizabeth mccravy.com/coaching-website-essentials, which is kind of long, I do have a shorter link for that somewhere. I can’t remember this off the top of my head, but that is the like, yeah, and

Dolly DeLong
I will link it out in the show notes everyone. And also I’ll be sharing a link to Elizabeth’s shop and a discount code to her template shop as well just in case you are wanting to hit refresh on your website and you have a show it website and they’re beautiful. You also just go check it out. Elizabeth where can people find you follow you get to know you and your sweet son and of course sweet husband but you know like her in the stage of sweet fun. Yes,

Elizabeth McCravy
yes, I know. I love being a boy mom with you. Yeah, so I love hanging on Instagram. I’m at Elizabeth McCravy and my websites Elizabeth mccravy.com. And there’s lots of free resources and stuff there and then for podcasting my podcast called The breakthrough brand podcast and if you like Dali show I would say you probably like mine as well though. We have a lot of like similar stuff. We talked about the same kinds of people I would say and yeah, that’s fun. I share like website tips marketing strategy behind scenes of my business and I don’t do nearly as many interviews as you do. I love how you do so many interviews Dali, but yeah, but I do a lot of solo episodes. So yeah, that’s that’s where you can find me.

Dolly DeLong
I would highly recommend everybody going in subscribing to her podcast for sure. And Elizabeth is not paying me to say this. I genuinely just love her podcast. And before we hopped on this episode, I was sharing with her that I love that her episodes are clean for the most part meaning like, like she’s not like dropping the F bomb every other word and my son is in the car with me and so I want him to listen to like something uplifting and yeah, he’s learning some business tips too. While he while he’s with me with me so

Elizabeth McCravy
yes parent and young child friendly content and the you were telling me to the intro music so you guys can listen. It’s got a little I don’t know it’s like the I forget the type like it genre that’s a good beat and like yeah actually kind of want to dance music

Dolly DeLong
he does see he’s does the I don’t know what it’s called like the toddler head nod in the back and you know like every mom’s like on my set like my kid is so cute and I’m like I am that mom. I’m like, Oh, my kid is so cute. So I’m sure if somebody saw him they’d be like, he’s, it’s okay, like. So anyways, thank you so much, Elizabeth. I really appreciate it.

Elizabeth McCravy
Thank you for having me,

Dolly DeLong
of course and I will talk to you all next week. Thank you so much for listening to the systems and workflow magic podcast. You can find full show notes from today’s episode at dolly DeLonge photography.com forward slash podcast. If you’re loving the podcast, I’d be so honored if you’d subscribe and leave a review on your favorite podcast player. Be sure to screenshot this episode, share it to your stories and tag me at dolly DeLong education over on Instagram. Until next time, go make some strategic workflow magic..

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